We were one of two rvs in this park in Jan. 2012. It's very well kept. It's hard to find, however; although it's on Chance, there is no signage. Look for the guard shack at the gate. We rated this a 6 because there is a nearby train, and the fairgrounds is next to the CA Air National Guard and those planes are loud at night. If you're just looking for a one-nighter, this place is a good deal for the price. There is also plenty of dog walking room. We camped here in a Travel Trailer.
This is not an RV Park, but rather a bunch of hookups along the fairground buildings, where the public may stay when the "Big Fresno Fair" isn't on. Enter from Gate 2 on South Chance Ave, and pay at the Administration Building (immediately left). The office is only open Mon-Fri; no idea where (or if) you pay on weekends. There aren't any official site numbers, so you just park anywhere that you want. The hookups are 15 and 50 amps; no 30-amp hookups, so bring your adapters. Sewer hookups are along one building only; the rest are electric and water only. Be sure to test for electrical power before you unhitch; I found none of the 50-amp outlets worked, and half of the 15-amp outlets didn't work either. Circuit breakers are in a locked panel, so you can't reset them. I talked to three people to report that none of the 50-amp outlets worked; they all promised to send the fairground's electrician over, but three days later, he still hadn't showed up. Officially there is no Wi-Fi provided, but I found several open access points close to South Chance Ave. Buildings blocked the signal elsewhere, so you probably won't have access at your site. Avoid parking here if there are any events going on; I arrived a few days before 300 head of cattle showed up for an exhibition. Dozens of cattle trailers and trucks were double-parked along the interior roads, making it completely impossible to get an RV trailer out. I was trapped there for an extra day, until they went home! The official website for the fair is "fresnofair" but they don't have RV Parking information listed yet. I suggest that you phone before you arrive, to see if there are spaces available. We camped here in a Travel Trailer.
This is an inner-city RV park. There is some grass and some shade trees. There were other parts of the park that seemed nicer; we were near the front. The sites are paved, but ours was not level. The park is old but maintained. The bathroom and shower were old and uninviting. There seemed to be leaking around the toilet. The reception person was kind and welcoming. We would not return here unless we had to be in Fresno. We camped here in a Travel Trailer.
The manager greeted us as we drove in. It was easy to find the location and the sites were paved and very wide. The facility is very clean and quiet. I would recommend this park. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.
This is primarily a concrete park. It is more like a mobile home park than an RV park, with lots of permanent renters, in the middle of the city. It is near an airport and right on the main road. That said, it is a fine place for an overnighter or if you need to be in the region. Most of the park is asphalt but there are quite a few trees. Check-in was very quick. The Wi-Fi is acceptable (a bit slow). The park felt safe. We would stay here again. We camped here in a Travel Trailer.
Great park while visiting Fresno. We have stayed here several times and we are finding the park is improving with each visit. There are several extended stay folks and all are keeping their areas clean and tidy. Good power and water pressure. We will be back. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.
Stayed here for 3 nights. Centrally located to shopping centers, restaurants, anywhere you need to shop. Good paved roads and very wide sites. Our site was on a corner, large cement pad and then a large grassy area - probably 35 ft distance between each site. Usual traffic noise as the RV Park is close to a major street. This is a place to stop for a few nights on your way north or south. No bells or whistles, older park but well kept. Would stay here again for a few days. We camped here in a Motorhome.
I hesitate to let the secret of this park's existence out, but we stay here a lot and like it a lot. It's old, but the sites are huge and it's being well-maintained. It has quite a few pull-throughs and is conveniently located to most parts of Fresno/Clovis you'd care to visit or need to visit. We've stayed here for several weeks at a time during the past 5 years and have never had a single incident even though the park is on a busy city street and in a commercial area. If not for the RV sign at the street entrance, you'd never know it was there. Rate is based on a weekly rate of $175. Rates for overnight or a couple days is a bit higher, but not much. We camped here in a Travel Trailer.
Decent park, good location. Walking distance to stores, bar, short drive to groceries. Good cable and Wi-Fi. Sites are level concrete with room for vehicle, picnic tables on sites. OK laundry room. Our site was very quiet with nice big tree. Weekly rate is only $175. If in Fresno again, would definitely stay again. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.
Really nice staff. Everyone friendly. Convenient location. We were visiting family in fresno/Clovis. Stayed over two weeks. Easy to find, easy to get and out of and to freeway. Park is clean and well kept. Some working long term residents, no bother. Did not use facilities other than wi-fi. Will recommend and stay here again when in area. Limited pet area but no problems. Rate is weekly. $35 a night We camped here in a Motorhome.
Was a bit concerned about getting into this park when I looked at it on Google Earth. Found it to be easy to get in & out of with our 37' 5th wheel. Their internet worked fine as did our Verizon. I gave them a 5 because there's nothing special about this place. It's just an OK place to park while visiting relatives. Was told when we arrived to make certain our bikes where locked up REAL GOOD because there have been bike thefts in the park. Their posted office hours are Mon-Sat 9am-6pm & Sun.9am-1pm. However, I don't think the office hours are adhered to. I called on a Saturday @ 2:30pm (well within the posted 6pm closing) and was told the office is closed and to call back on MONDAY. I guess they're closed on Sunday even though they're supposed to be open. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.
This was a great place to stay after coming out of Yosemite before heading back to Southern California. Check in was easy. We were assigned a nice shady spot that was easy to pull into and out of. It was great to be back on the grid with cable TV and WIFI. We camped here in a Motorhome.
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Exactly as reviewed...in the heart of town. Be careful on approach. Also very hot and limited 50amp availability because of permanent residents. Quite close and sometimes loud. Chubby's across the street (careful crossing) is good and a haven of air conditioning. We camped here in a Motorhome.
I agree with the other recent reviews. Clean and close to restaurants and shopping. Very quiet for the location. It is 90 minutes to the Northern Entrance of Sequioa/Kings Canyon N.P. via Rt. 180. Our rate was based on a one week stay. We would stay here again. We camped here in a Motorhome.
Every time we stay here, we see new improvements. Trees are being trimmed, old trailers are being removed and the full-time residents are really taking pride in the park. Management should be commended for their hard work. We'll be back soon. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.
This is an urban RV park that is well kept, in a very busy part of town, yet off the street so quiet for a busy area. Loads of shopping and restaurants nearby. I use this park whenever I visit friends in Fresno. We camped here in a Motorhome.
Spent a month here, our fourth visit. Rate is based on four weeks plus one day at $35. Very convenient for visiting the nearby National Parks. There are still several full-time residents, some with very old rigs. Management is slowly getting rid of them. Very clean park except for some of the residents not cleaning up after their dogs. I had to clean up poo three times. I complained about that problem and another resident letting their dogs run around. One of them darned near bit me! The next day they were gone. Several times during our stay we had to extend and management was very responsive and helpful. We will return. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.
We stayed in back area which was very nice and quiet. The Good Sam discount was honored. There is lots of grass and shady areas: good for pets. The spaces were level asphalt, clean, and well maintained. We camped here in a Motorhome.
This park is another gem in an area without a lot of RV parks. The sites have a lot of grass between them and there are a lot of shade trees. There are many long terms guests. The park is very quiet. The restrooms are unisex and very basic and clean. We did not use the showers or laundry. Nearby there are stores to stock up such as Trader Joes, Target and the wonderful Cal State Fresno student farmers market - all seasonal fruits, veg, meats, nuts, wine and ice cream and olive oils - a must visit in Fresno. Follow the RV campgrounds driving instructions as the road is divided in front of the park and you can not turn left for entrance or exit. We camped here in a Travel Trailer.
Went to Fresno as a stop on the way to Yosemite and Kings Canyon. We enjoyed this park so much that we returned for a quiet week's stay. This is the only actual RV park in Fresno. New managers are in the process of making improvements, but the park is very nice already. Originally a mobile home park, it has been an RV park for many years. Many fulltime residents, and some of the coaches are older, but the park has a clean and neat look. Trees are trimmed well. Overnighters stay in neat, very spacious sites with mature trees and a grassy space beside the concrete pads. Wide roads in good condition made for easy in and out for our 38' rig. About 25 channels on the cable. Rate is based on a week's stay. Daily rate is $35 and worth it. Friendly management, residents and staff made our stay very enjoyable. We will return when in the area. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.
Located within a commercial area of Fresno, but quiet. Very clean and neat. Asphalt pads and parking spaces with concrete patios and nice grassy areas; most sites have shade trees. Several old residential units need to be moved out. Laundry facility is old but works well and priced reasonably. Advertised as Good Sam Discount park, but we paid the same rate as non-Good Sam guests. We would stay here again. We camped here in a Motorhome.
We've been staying in this park for several years when we pass through Fresno. It's come a long way recently with new owner. Nothing fancy but it's got good sized spaces, easy access, and a very convenient location. Rate shown was daily rate based on a week-long stay. Overnight rate is $30 which is still a good deal these days. Cable TV selection is kind of limited so we used our satellite except for local channels. Wi-Fi was fair to good, but had a few problems sometimes. We camped here in a Travel Trailer.
We stopped here after a big snowstorm slowed our way out of Yosemite. Its close to 41 and in an urban area of town. They had a pull through that fit us our our towed Jeep. 35' class A and Jeep grand Cherokee 55' combined length. Very quiet park, did not see hardly anyone. Its in an urban area at first glance not a great park but across the street is a great donut shop and diner. El Pollo Loco across street too. The kids and I played 2 bowling games in the alley next door which was very modern. The alley has video games for kids too. NOTE: There is a Kragen auto parts store across the street!! Great for a parts run. I say its great for an overnight. Not so great for extended stay camping. Everything worked. Did not check out the bathrooms or laundry. They left an envelope with our space # and map as we came in late on Thanksgiving. We camped here in a Motorhome.
A lot of improvements have been made since our last stay here. Although there are a lot of long-term residents and some very old rigs still in the park, most of them have been removed from the entrance area. Trees have been pruned, a fence has been removed and some landscaping has been done. Bathrooms are still bad and need improvements. It does look like management is working to improve the park. Electrical boxes are very low to the ground making it hard to hookup a surge protector which is recommended in the park brochure. All hookups are in the very back of the sites. Bring sewer hose extensions if you have a large 5th wheel. Overpriced considering the bathroom conditions and no pool. Since we have family and friends in the area, we’ll be back but will keep looking for alternatives. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.
I give this park a "3" instead of the lowest rating of a 1 because the site was at least level, all utilities worked, and the staff were quick to have a permanent resident move his car, which was parked at the site we were assigned to. The one co-ed restroom smelled of urine and I would not use it. It was old and run down too. This is an in-town RV park with mostly permanent residents. It was quiet at night for the one night we were there and the permanent residents seemed to keep their places up. It is 7+ miles east of CA 99, so not terribly convenient if you're just looking for a one night stop over. The nightly fee of $35 was way overpriced for the facilities, especially since the restroom was unusable. The weather was pleasant in the evening so didn't require A/C usage. So, $35 for a little water and minimal electricity was way too steep. We camped here in a Motorhome.
Be sure to call for reservations. We called the day before and had a reservation but when we got here the assigned site was terrible. At the back of the park with residents who needed to be moved out years ago. There were limbs piled high at the back of the site. There are some nice sites but they were taken. Manager was rude about moving to another site. She could have told us the same thing nicely. We camped here in a Motorhome.
Nice Park. Has paved spaces with small concrete patios. Patio has small picnic table on it. We did not have reservations when we pulled in. The lady at the desk said that since they became a Good Sam park, they are usually 100% occupied. We were very lucky. She had a cancellation and could accommodate us. Highly recommend making reservations if you plan to use this park. The park in the middle of town but is quiet. The park is in good shape overall for its age and was a trailer park. There are some old trailers but most are RVs now. Very pleasant and courteous staff. They do also offer weekly rates. We camped here in a Motorhome.
Came to Fresno to visit a relative in the hospital. We were not sure how long our stay would be, one day or several. The Park owners were so very accommodating with us. They sure helped with a stressful time for us. This RV park was very clean which was nice since you never really know what you are going to get with a park in town. None of the trailers had junk outside on the ground. Everything was very tidy. The park was really quiet, also surprising for in town, and was very close to a major hospital. Definitely call ahead as the park was really full, and I can see why. The new owners are doing a great job and have definitely changed a park that used to have a bad reputation. We camped here in a Travel Trailer.
Nothing fancy, but the managers are really nice and accommodating. My husband lived here for a couple of months, and I would come up and visit on the weekend. Lots of monthly renters. Nice landscaping - lots of trees. Close to highway. We camped here in a Travel Trailer.
Rate is based on $175 weekly. We were pleasantly surprised on our return to what is now called Blackstone North RV Park. The new owners have made several improvements since our last visit including painting, removing some of the old beat-up rigs and generally sprucing things up a bit. Although the bathrooms were fairly clean this time, they still could use a remodel but I believe the management will get to that in due time. Go slow when entering and exiting the park as there is a fairly large dip onto Blackstone Ave. This park is a good place to stay when visiting the Fresno area. We will stay there again. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.
If you have to stay in Fresno, this place is OK. Tight turns getting into the park: go slow. The bathrooms were very bad! Looked like they hadn't been cleaned in a long time. A lot of old and junky looking RVs parked there for the long term. Before parking in your assigned site, look it over. Our space had several bolts sticking out of the cement pad left by the previous resident that had been there for a long time. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.
Very well maintained park with the friendliest staff we've ever encountered. The big rig sites are on the frontage road but we never found the noise to be an issue. I give them a 9 only because the neighborhood is not the best, right at the same freeway exit is where all of the "no-tell motels" are located and you get quite the show as you drive by, but you do drive right on by. The park is several blocks from there, in a rural-residential neighborhood. As we drove up the manager ran right out to greet us and direct us to our spot and even helped with navigating the tight squeeze between 2 posts. (One of which my husband hit anyway because he doesn't always listen.) She checked on us occasionally, and even checked on our dog while we were out. While we were here they always seemed to have people going in and out of their transient sites, so make sure you make a reservation. If you must stay in Fresno, this is a great place and we would definitely recommend it to anyone. We camped here in a Motorhome.
The park is very small and the spaces available for overnight RV's are next to the frontage street. This is more of a long term trailer park. It is in a very bad neighborhood. The owner of the park had me take my bikes and the rack off of my trailer because of routine theft at night and place them in his storage building. Even with my large cable and pad lock he stated they will just cut it off with bolt cutters. I had no plan on spending that time considering I was only there overnight. Everything else was fine but we did not feel safe at all. It was quiet at night early on. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.
This is an old mobile home park with many older units. I would not recommend trying to put a big rig more than 40' in here. The personnel are Excellent. Everyone is very friendly and helpful. Nice laundry facility. Felt very safe here. We camped here in a Motorhome.
Superb location, close to the lake. Only a few shady places, quickly taken by frequent visitors. Do not go to the full hook up site, the others are much better placed. The lake is Hot, Hot, Hot, and the campground is quiet, especially on weekdays. Not enough shade, and a stupid, incomprehensible reservation system, otherwise a 10/10. We camped here in a Motorhome.
We last camped here 30 years ago. We were really pleased with the improvements that have been made, in particular, the RV hookups. We were here with a large group of tent campers, so after spending the day at the lake with them, in 100+ degree temps, it was really nice to be able to go back our trailer's AC. For boaters: fuel dock at the marina may be closed during the week. The closest gas station or market for that matter, is about a 16 mile round trip. We camped here in a Travel Trailer.
California state parks are too expensive for state parks. Beautiful view of wonderful lake, winding rode to get to park. Real downer is having to pay for showers instead of having time valve. Especially when park employee turns one of the site water spigots on full blast and then leave for over 30-minutes while it runs! Overall great place to stay overnight or vacation at. Would return, wish it wasn't so costly. We camped here in a Motorhome.
This site has a nice view on the lake but is too expensive for what it offers. Now there is too much parking around the sites and you feel no more in pure nature. Children are not welcomed because there is no playground and the only games are to play with the threes but it's also forbidden. We would not return there. Camp host very kind. We camped here in a Motorhome.
We dry camped right down on the water. Park staff was friendly. This was a great trip. I went for one night to check it out to see if it was as good as the posts suggested, and it was. We had a blast wading around in the water, even chased a fish with a big stick hoping to scare it on shore in the shallow water. This is a popular place for boaters, which I presently am not, however the marina does offer rentals, from what I understand. If you camp here in the summer expect very warm temperatures. The hooks up sites appear to be quite a bit closer together with less privacy than the dry sites. Looks like almost every dry camp site does include a fresh water spout. We camped in site 95 which at this time was the closest to the water and has a huge oak tree for picnic shade. It was just big enough to fit my 30' and tow vehicle. We camped here in a Travel Trailer.
Nice park in a very nice setting -- except I need wi-fi for my work and the closest was 45 minutes away. 15 minutes of that is getting from the turn-off into the park back to the RV camping area -- it seems to take forever! The coyotes howling at night and the zillions of stars almost make up for the distance. The bathrooms and showers were typical of CA state parks, clean and decent. I thought the $29 off-season fee was a little high, especially comparing it to some of the weekly rates of private campgrounds, but we liked camping there and the hosts were *very* friendly. We camped here in a Travel Trailer.
This campground is quite a trip from the main road. We camped out of season, so it's self check-in. Don't pay at the main station, wait until you get into the RV campground to pay. The campground is like a parking lot with wide spaces. Picnic tables are two feet apart, so you should like your fellow campers. We saw several hawks and heard coyotes at night. It is a nice California State campground, but we're used to camping in Oregon where each site is very private. Since it's so far from the main roads, we probably will not return. We camped here in a Motorhome.
Millerton Lake SRA is an outstanding campground and we cannot wait to return. The park was clean and well maintained. The restrooms and showers were, by far, the cleanest I have ever seen in a state park and better than most high-end campgrounds! There is a lot of beach access so, even with a full campground, you won’t feel crowded down on the beach. The drawbacks are that only about 30 sites of the 148 are full hook up, (the rest are dry sites) and they require that generators be off from 8:00 p.m. to 10:00 a.m. The full hookup sites felt a little like a parking lot, but there was a large area of grass and trees behind each site with the standard fire rings and picnic tables. The park staff was friendly and patrolled the park regularly. We cannot wait to return! We camped here in a Tent Trailer.
There are 148 sites in the campground though only 26 have electrical and water. Most of these are situated on asphalt with open wooded area behind the rv. Only a few sites with hookup are in a shaded area. Many of the sites without hookups are amongst trees though. There is a view of the lake from most of the sites. Self-registration was in proces at time of our visit and campground was practically empty. Nice place to relax if one can do without telephone and tv. We camped here in a Motorhome.
This is my third time staying at this park and my second review. It is an older park with a lot of full timers -- that includes many mobile homes, but well maintained and quiet. It is very easy to access from 99. Take the Olive Ave off ramp and turn right and go a couple (long) blocks past the gas stations and fast food eateries. It is on the left. The park is close to the Tower District with restaurants, banks, shopping, post office, and easy access to gas and propane. It is also close to the Rhoeding Park Zoo--a must see. I have stayed in the same spot each time I have been here, as luckily it was free. I recommend it for its privacy--the front door opens out onto a patio and grassy area with trees. It is by the entrance so there are cars coming and going occasionally but they have not been a distraction. On the other side of the hedge that borders this side of the park is a family residence. There are the usual family noises but they are respectful of their "neighbors", quieting their dogs or bringing them in when they bark--which they often did when my dog was out. The spaces are pull through of sorts -- parallel parking but drive forward into the spot after unhooking the tow vehicle. Then drive forward to hook up the tow vehicle when ready to leave and then for the spot I am in, drive forward out of the park. Wherever one parks it is easy in and out. The laundry room is clean with newer washers and dryers and is nicely priced. There is a bin for recycling at the west side of the park. There is also a nice clean swimming pool which I used last spring when I was here. Next to the park on the other side from my spot there is a "clubhouse" that belongs to a motorcycle club. I mention it only as a disclaimer as only on two occasions during my three weeks here was there the usual noise from a couple motorcycles that motorcycles make, but it was not ongoing and it was not late at night. The manager told me the noise from there has increased a bit since I was last here but it was not a problem while I was here other than what I just mentioned. The park has upgraded the (free) Wi-Fi and I got excellent reception the entire time I was here. The rate I paid was on the weekly rate. Yes, I will stay here again. We camped here in a Motorhome.
Old and small, but an immaculately kept campground. The neighborhood looked iffy when we passed through, however no one bothered anything that we left outside, and we had a very safe and pleasant stay. There were mostly full time residents here who seemed to take as much pride in the park as their friendly manager. We were traveling with another 40’ big rig and the manager could not have been more pleasant and helpful and was able to park us together, even supplying an extra water hose to our friends when theirs didn’t reach. There were plenty choices of restaurants and fuel that is close to the easily on/off highway 99. Our reservation was for three nights but we decided to stay an extra one in the peaceful setting. We have a washer/dryer and air card so internet and laundry were not an issue, but the services were available. We would recommend this park and would definitely stay here again. I only gave this park an 8 because of the age of the park and the unusual way of parking could be a problem for inexperienced drivers. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.
Prior to staying at New Horizons I stayed at two other parks in Fresno. Both were very nice. This trip I decided to stay at a park that was convenient for my needs while in Fresno, competitively priced, close to highway 99, and had gotten at least one favorable review somewhere. I planned on staying a week, but because of obligations in Fresno I wound up staying nearly three. I enjoyed every day at this park. It is old and in some disrepair as old parks can be, but don't let that scare you away. The grounds are clean and the landscaping is well maintained. It was also very quiet no matter the time of day. While the park is mostly full time residents (some are there to work temporary jobs), almost all the units are newer or with "good skin" and in good repair. Some people had their area landscaped in lovely and creative ways. The laundry room is convenient and always clean-- but bring your own quarters--cannot get change there. You can walk your dog through the park--there are plenty of grassy areas if that is what your dog prefers. I was parked in the very front across from the manager. The spot has a concrete patio right outside the door and as the units "parallel park" my door faced away from the road so my spot was very private--across from me was a hedge that separated that spot from a house outside the park. The park is not in the best part of town -- none of them are--but the manager is friendly, takes pride in the park and makes sure it is a pleasant place to stay. As a single woman traveling alone, that alone speaks for the positive review I give this park. I plan to go back through Fresno in a few months and will definitely stay here again. We camped here in a Motorhome.
This is a clean, (for the most part) well maintained mobile home park with many sites for RV's. The manager is a great help and keeps the facility as clean as can be. She is available 24/7 and does her level best to make sure things are up to par. There are a few sites that the sewer is not functional (the hook up needs to be updated) evidently the owners do not give her permission to get these fixed. There is a weekly lawn groomer and a pool guy that comes in regularly in the summer months to clean the pool. The laundry facility is clean and the machines are nice and comfortably priced. I recommend this facility to anyone wanting to stay in the Fresno area. We camped here in a Motorhome.
The positive - the lady in the office was nice. She told me to choose a site, get set up then come to the office. She gave me a registration form to complete. Wi-Fi worked very well from my site - #10.The not so positive - there were very few overnight spots. It was mostly long-term and very dated. There was a laundry room but no showers or bathroom unless you count the port-a-potty. I got a few TV stations with my converter box. There was a lot of highway noise. The cost of $35 is for cash or check. It's $5 more for a credit card. There are no discounts. I probably would not stay here again. We camped here in a Motorhome.
Easy access just off Hwy 99. One night stay while traveling North. No frills: nice and simple. Park was quiet and clean as most people were living here full time and working. We camped here in a Motorhome.
This is not an RV park but a seedy, old mobile home park in desperate condition with ancient mobile homes in desperate condition. It has recently been purchased, and the new manager is making improvements as fast as possible, but he has a very long way to go. Very nice, helpful manager. They have one site at the very front of the park, but getting into it was just too iffy for our big rig. We appreciated the offer to clean up another site where large equipment was parked, but the park is just not ready for RVers so we did not stay. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.
When working near Fresno, my family and found Three Palms RV Park of Fresno. We did some research of all the other Fresno RV Parks and this is definitely the most affordable RV park in Fresno and the best overall deal we found. The park was being "remodeled" during the beginning of our stay, but they seem to really do a lot during our 3 month stay. They remodeled the bathrooms & showers, put in fast Wi-Fi wireless internet, and gave most of the buildings a modern face lift. If your looking for monthly long term RV camping, this is your place. One of the main reasons we chose Three Palms was that the RV spaces were the biggest we found and were shaded by trees, not just an open parking lot with RV hookups. They also had an on-site laundry facility, a great manager. They made this Fresno TV camper feel right at home. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.